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    Default Samples of flaws

    These are two healed scar ares on an H&M Sofa in Tiburon Garnet, a price class 2 unprotected leather. This is a leather that is left in a more 'natural' state than others, and I thought it good to show some examples of that this can look like. First photo is on the top of the arm, the second larger spot on the back of the sofa on the vertical panel. I used a Quarter not only to show size, but to give the camera something to focus on so the picture stays sharp and clear. These are considered acceptable in this type of leather by H&M.
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    Default Re: Samples of flaws

    Scars aside, what is your opinion on Tiburon? Do the scars just add character or is there a trade off in getting a 'nicer' leather for a lower cost?

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    Default Re: Samples of flaws

    I have the H&M Georgetown Tufted Chair in Tiburon Butternut and LOVE the Tiburon. I have three Class III and one other Class II leather on other H&M pieces and the Tiburon is easily my favorite. The hand isn't as soft as the higher end leathers - or even some of the Class IIs like Upton - but it is quite decent and the look is great.

    It isn't for everyone, though. It definitely is for those who prefer a more natural or weathered look. For example, I think it would be an excellent choice for those considering a burnished or hand antiqued leather. It gives you that look, but at a Class II rather than III, IV, or V price.

    I can't speak to value - Duane would be the person to address that. But from speaking with him about this previously, it sounds like the price of leather is often dictated as much by origin of the leather (e.g. South America v. Europe) as quality.

    Finally, my Tiburon piece doesn't have imperfections as extreme as those pictured - just fully healed range scars - so every piece won't have those issues.
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    Tiburnon is a class 2 hide, so i expect this in a non-protected hide in this price range. Its part of the overall 'look'. Now if these scars showed up on a class 4 Capri or Montana hide that's going for butter soft luxury, I'd be on the phone to H&M in a blink and returning the pieces.

    I wanted to post this because I know something like this can be alarming to someone who doesn't know what to expect. That's why its important to buy from a store where the dealer knows the product line and you can talk about things such as this. A well-educated dealer can then listen to what you want, and steer you to the right hide for the look and feel that you like.

    I happen to like things like this, as well as burls and crotches in wood. But its not for everyone. What I don't care for is a uniform 'processed' look in leather, or even-grained wood in a case piece. That's totally boring to me!

    I'll continue to post photos like this to build up the library on the forum so everyone can get a sense of what to expect from a give hide.
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    Default Re: Samples of flaws

    Would the class III Garfield leather be likely to have this type of scarring?

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    It can have some, but generally not to this degree. Garfield is a leather where they do not try to correct all the flaws, but it starts life as a higher grade 'crust' in the initial select process than Tiburnon.
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    How much scarring would a finished Class 3 leather (Antelope) show in comparison?

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    Antelope has virtually none. Remember its a protected leather, so its been finished, but to a high degree.
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