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    Default Still learning....and at my age!

    Us Old dogs are set in their ways. We do things in the classic style, which is NOT the modern style. And you learn the hard way that that the way it used to be isn't how it works today.

    We set off for our Italy cruise on Viking Ocean yesterday. I had booked everything through Viking, so they did the air, the ground transfers and the voyage, figuring (turns out wrongly) that if something went wrong they would make it right. Trust and Ethics.
    The flight out to Amsterdam was cancelled after sitting at the airport 8 hours, due to weather.* So was every other outbound airline resulting in massive travel delays for thousands at Dulles Airport. That meant our connection flight from Amsterdam to Rome was shot, and we would not get on the ship due at Embarkation at the Rome port. We went back home after retrieving our luggage.

    The airlines were of no help whatsoever. They would not rebook us or guide us. Thank you KLM and Star Alliance.

    I called Viking Emergency travel help, thinking we would just take a credit for the same cruise another time, say in a month or so. "No, Mr. Collie, you didn't buy the optional insurance ($ 1,400 per ticket x 2) so you have 100% loss of your cruise and funds". Had you bought the insurance, then you could get a refund or a credit.

    Really? Took me a minute to absorb that as it was $ 24,000 we paid. Viking guy said "We will rebook your air and you can catch up to the ship at one of the port stops."

    So while Viking guy has me on hold to search for air, I start reading the 57 page small print cruise ticket you accept when you book and never bother to read, because it is 57 pages and reads like a commercial real estate lease.* *Yep, there it was on page 22 that they are not responsible for airline cancellations due to weather and will not refund though they will help rebook.

    "What about the two days of cruise we miss and our pre-paid excursions on those two days?"* I ask. But I already knew the answer to that because its all in the ticket contract. YOU LOSE.

    So we are headed back to Dulles today, catching up with the ship in Naples Italy after a very long flight which will be to Istanbul, Turkey, a five hour layover at that airport, then 2 and a half hour flight back West to Naples Fl. That's all they can find since all the other flights are booked from the East Coast to Europe due to this storm yesterday.

    The cherry on top of it all was the Uber ride back home from the airport at 10 p.m. We are tooling along I-66 and the Uber Driver says "You just cancelled your ride" and pulled over on the Interstate shoulder to let us out. What the????* Apparently I failed to close the Uber App on my phone and somehow it pocket-dialed the cancellation button. After two minutes of side-of-the-road negotiations, I told him just finish the trip and I will give him $ 60 cash, which is more than he would make from Uber.

    Takeaways from this experience

    1) Do not trust any business to do the right thing, Integrity is gone.
    2) Always buy the trip insurance on big dollar vacations
    3) Always pay by credit card and do not use the Cruise line 3.5% discount for ACH Transfer. At least them you have a shot at a chargeback.
    4) Always close your Uber App on your phone

    Off to Istanbul at 1 p.m today.....maybe this time it will work.

    I ran my little store on ethics and courtesy, as best I could. Old School respect and put yourself in your customers shoes. Try to make it right. But that's not modern business, which is set up with rules that are inflexible. I think I prefer the way it used to be.
    Duane Collie
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    Default Re: Still learning....and at my age!

    That’s terrible the start of your much anticipated dream trip. I was looking forward to seeing pictures and reading your enjoyment of this trip like you have posted of previous years vacations. Hopefully the rest of the time goes as planned. The airlines are a disaster sorry this fell on you two. Angie

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    I’m so sorry that you missed the first part of your trip. It sounds like a nightmare. I learned a good lesson from your experience though. I hope the rest of your trip is wonderful and you have a great time.

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    Hope you caught up with the ship and are now having a nice time.

    Since you didn't really elaborate on your specific departure/arrival times, you may have done this but for any domestic cruise, I would arrive to the port city at least 24 hours before the ship sets sail. For international travel to met your voyage, I would double that. It will make for a much less stressful trip. The cruise lines cannot and will not wait for you nor do they consider it their fault, as you've learned, if a third-party airline is unable to get you to the port in time; even if the air travel was booked as a package through the cruise line. Obviously that policy is a little harsh but I suppose it has to be. They are dealing with thousands of people arriving at the port, or not arriving, from points all around the globe and a sizable percentage are always going to encounter issues and be late or not get there at all. They kind of have to have a policy of saying here's when we leave, be here or, literally, you miss the boat and it's not on us. They can't really gave you a refund either because then your cabin would be unused for the voyage and they'd lose that money. Their fares are based on a fully occupied vessel.

    Sorry if it sounds like I am defending Viking but they are a good line and they deal with a lot of entitled people who literally think an entire cruise ship should wait on them because they waited till the last minute to pack. It's kind of a tough business because they have to be so hard-nosed about the schedule when their overarching mission is to bring joy and relaxation to peoples' lives.

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    Yes, we finally caught. up to the ship and lost two days, it took (4) airline re-bookings to do so.

    You are correct, its best to travel two days earlier to avoid such issues. We are seasoned travelers and know better!
    Duane Collie
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    Default Re: Still learning....and at my age!

    Welcome back! Hopefully you were able to enjoy the rest of it. Some wild spam posts while you were gone lol

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    Yes, the spammers have ALWAYS been around, usually two per day I have to ban. When we were in Italy, I was blocked from accessing the Forum from that country so I knew the Spammers would have a good time since there are no back up Moderators at this time.
    Duane Collie
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