Someone offered these for free. If I had a guess, I'd say these are from some kind of 1980's Macy's neo-Victorian dining set. But the one with armrests seems to weigh around 30 pounds, and too bulky to slide under normal table; yet the one without armrests seems like a normal, if slightly massive, dining chair. Could this be from a dining set, the big one for head of the table? Any guess as to their origin? Seem unlike any chairs [I] can find on internet, especially with their bulky carved features. Hating to be crass -- but were or are they valuable? Thanks so much for any response! Click image for larger version. 

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